theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 أن هذا لفى الصحف الأولى صحف ابراهيم وموسى The Books of Abraham and Moses 87:19 رَسُولٌ۬ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ يَتۡلُواْ صُحُفً۬ا مُّطَهَّرَةً۬ A messenger from Allah, reading purified pages 98:2 La ressemblance des deut mot, si on peut dire souhouf Ibrahim et Souhouf Moussa est ce qu'on peut dire Souhouf Mohamed ? parceque c'est Allah qui a fait descendre sir lui ces souhouf qui sont les pages ou les sourah du Coran Ou sa na aucun sens ce que je dis ? Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 أَمۡ لَمۡ يُنَبَّأۡ بِمَا فِى صُحُفِ مُوسَىٰ (٣٦) وَإِبۡرَٲهِيمَ ٱلَّذِى وَفَّىٰٓ (٣٧) أَلَّا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ۬ وِزۡرَ أُخۡرَىٰ ) Ne lui a-t-on pas annoncé ce qu’il y avait dans les feuilles de Moïse - et celles d’Abraham qui a tenu parfaitement [sa promesse de transmettre] qu’aucune [âme] ne portera le fardeau (le péché) d’autrui, 53:36-38 On ma dit que plusieurs de ce qui est dans les livres de Ibrahim Et Moussa Sont dans le livre De Mohamed , d'après ce verset. les livres que Allah a fait descendre sur eux biensur. Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 So...You believe in God ? Lucky guy ! Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 So...You believe in God ? Lucky guy ! Yeah , i do , but lucky, i'm not so sure about it lol Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 So...You believe in God ? Lucky guy ! To me god is the administrative system of the universe and beyond, that is why we will never see or understand, too sophisticated and too much grandeur Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 He's lucky the man who lives hopefully... I hate my life and i know there's no heaven above us Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 He's lucky the man who lives hopefully... I hate my life and i know there's no heaven above us No I don't believe there's a heaven, the heaven in the quran simply means cosmos or universe Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 Do we take care about insects ? Why should god take about us ?:D Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 Do we take care about insects ? Why should god take about us ?:D Come on lol , insects somtimes don't let u sleep lol well, the garden and hell are in this world, if u follow the quranic system, u make your country a garden, if not, it will be hell, just like the world is now there's no fire , literaly, there's only the fire of distress, fire of fear, fire of insecurity etc.. the expressions are more poetic in the quran and the people of that time understood poesie, the later people are dumb and took everything literally; there is no going out of the graves like zombies and stuff like that the garden described in the quran is all the reward in this world, meaning if u believe and do good deeds, u will have palm trees and fruits etc.... meaning abundance of good for everyone, with the justice that is in the quran and all, no one really understand the quran now, except few scilars whom they take as atheists because they don't like reality Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 You never doubt ? Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 You never doubt ? Doubt what ? Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 About your belief Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 About your belief Ah, il faut que tu me connais dabors LOL née catholique, a 17ans commence le changement, baptist, jehovah's witness, buddhist, hindous, puis sounni , puis rien, aucune religion, Allah seul et son livre seul Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Oran Mécanik 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Partager Posted December 4, 2010 You'll maybe try something else one of these days... Citer Link to post Share on other sites
theloxbox 10 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Partager Posted December 4, 2010 You'll maybe try something else one of these days... Honestly, I don't think so , the only reason i always changed it's mostly because of the book, the books are corrypted, when i started to be a muslim , i liked it , and than with the hadiths i get confuded, with time i went out, atheist, but than rediscovered the quran, for now, i read the quran from cover to cover, it was all good, but than the more i study it, the more i get convinced about it, the more I understand, the more life makes sense, so , the quran rejects all superstitions, and it's expression is poetic and that is how u read it, except the xerses about law that are plain and clear, I never believed in heaven and hell the way it is described by religious people, and in the quran it is as i believed , clear , i never believed that adam was created somewhere, and the quran is clear about the evolution and that adam was born out of a woman's woumb just like anybody else, so , u get the pic Citer Link to post Share on other sites
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