Ladoz 11 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Le président d'honneur du FN, Jean-Marie Le Pen, a accordé un entretien à un media russe dans lequel il juge que "la fusillade de Charlie Hebdo porte la signature de services secrets". Des propos qu'il dément avoir tenus. L'interview qu'aucun média Français n'a osé reproduire : Jean-Marie Le Pen to Russian newspaper: 'Charlie Hebdo attack has the hallmarks of being a secret service operation' Daria Aslamova Komsomolskaya Pravda Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:17 CET Komsomolskaya Pravda special correspondent Daria Aslamova spoke with Jean-Marie Le Pen, a prominent European politician and founder of the National Front party in France The founder of the National Front party and MEP, Jean-Marie Le Pen, is an 86-year-old politician is a the legend of France. As a teenager, participated in the resistance movement. He fought with France's airborne troops in Indochina and Algeria. This old man with difficulty rising from a chair politely declined my hand. He damaged his left eye in a street brawl, but he sees women perfectly with his right eye. This Frenchman is very much a Frenchman. "Who is this beauty, who came to us from the Russian frost?" he asks me when I greet him. It's flattery, of course, but what woman does not melt at such a compliment? (1/2) à suivre Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Ladoz 11 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Partager Posted January 17, 2015 (2/2) suite et fin L'interview Daria Aslamova: Monsieur Le Pen, you first made the statement "I am not Charlie". How come? Jean-Marie Le Pen: I am not Charlie Hebdo. This anarchist rag is a direct enemy of our National Front party, and a few years ago its journalists were collecting signatures on a petition demanding our closure. And all these politicians who came to the demonstration - they too are not Charlie but 'charlots'! (so-called French clowns, comedians - DA) They can organize a big spectacle with strong media support and the slogan 'I am Charlie', temporarily mobilizing the nation, but they are not able to protect the country from the influx of immigrants from the south. I would like to be 'Charlie Martella'. (as French naval battleships were named, after the French military leader Charles Martel - DA) Martell, this brilliant French soldier, in 732 stopped the Arab invasion in Poitiers. DA: But now we're in 2015! J-M LP: Yes, and we live in a France with between 15 and 20 million Muslims. All French governments, left or right, allowed immigration, and even encouraged it. Every year another three hundred thousand people come, and they're not looking for work. 6 to 8 million people in France live on social benefits, which these immigrants come for. This is the result of a common Christian and European decadence. Europe has removed borders within the EU. And now, from the southern border, which nobody protects, leak hundreds of thousands of people into France. The whole thing amounts to intra-European betrayal. DA: But France itself is partly to blame for this. People are fleeing from war and chaos. After all, France has turned Libya into ruins! J-M LP: It was real crazy to get involved in a war with Libya. French planes bombed Gaddafi's tanks at a time when he was preparing to take Benghazi - the main stronghold of the Salafis (Wahhabis). Today complete anarchy reigns in Libya. From there, arms have been spreading across North Africa, and French leaders like Sarkozy are directly responsible for it. DA: What do you think about the Ukrainian crisis and the division between Europe and Russia? J-M LP: It was provoked by NATO, this Ukrainian crisis, as it tried to get closer to Russia's borders. The position of our party is this: the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is a family quarrel. After all, Russia was born in Kiev. And neither Europeans nor the Americans need to interfere in this family drama. Russian and Ukrainians themselves will understand each other. But there is no doubt that the United States continues to treat Russia as the Soviet Union, and to try to shake your government with conflicts in Georgia and Ukraine. DA: You are a member of the European Parliament looking into the situation with the downed Malaysian Boeing. What do you think about this crime? J-M LP: The surprising fact is that all investigations are conducted in an atmosphere of great secrecy. I'm no expert, but it is clear to me that this kind of attack requires military professionals of the highest level, and high-precision weapons, which for militias are not simple to acquire and use. And the obvious question is: why was this civilian aircraft flying over a war zone? Who let this happen? DA: This year a transatlantic partnership between the United States and the European Union will be signed. What are the benefits it promises Europe? J-M LP: Yes, it would be a disaster! We've turned into an economic colony of America. The EU is moving in the wrong direction - to the West, and it is necessary to turn to the East, Russia. We need a united Europe - from the Atlantic to the Pacific, but a Europe of sovereign nations. Russia has demographic problems, and it is increasingly difficult for it to keep Siberia. However, Siberia - a geo-strategic location - is absolutely necessary for the survival of the whole of Europe. We need a strong alliance between Europe, with its high technology, and Russia, with its natural resources. If we do not, then our continent, with its demographic depression, in the cultural and economic sense, will simply disappear. Look at Germany: it's a gold-plated coffin full of dead bodies. The Germans are a dying nation. How many children give birth in Europe? Per woman, on average, 1.3 children. And just to keep the previous level of the population requires 2.5. And now look at the world around us. Muslim countries, India - per woman, between 3 and 5 children. I've said nothing about China. If it cancels the rule of 'one family - one child', a population explosion will happen that will shake the entire planet. But Europe must be saved individually, without relying on bureaucrats in Brussels. France should withdraw from the EU to limit immigration and to solve economic problems on its own. We need to get the French to understand that our salvation lies in national sovereignty. DA: But your National Front party is not even invited to the general demonstration against terrorism! J-M LP: Because we are the defenders of the national idea. We had to be at the forefront, as it is the National Front that spoke of the urgent problems of immigration for many years! And on the possibility of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. DA: However, in the Charlie Hebdo affair, there are many unanswered questions. J-M LP: I agree. These Kouachi brothers leaving their ID cards behind reminded me of that passport falling out of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 and miraculously surviving intact. Downtown New York City burned, but the passport was fine. They now tell people that the terrorists are idiots, which is why, they say, they left their documents in the car. The shooting at Charlie Hebdo has the hallmarks of being a secret service operation, but we have no proof. I do not think that the French authorities organized this crime, but they allowed this crime to be committed. This is only a guess. DA: Why did the Charlie Hebdo magazine constantly insult Muslims and Christians, but hardly touched the Jews? J-M LP: Because the Jews know how to defend themselves. Pay attention to the Femen organization. They can run around naked in front of the Pope, naked in the Cathedral of Notre Dame, but they never do that in the synagogue. DA: Europe mourns the dead cartoonist, but does not see the death of Russian journalists in the Donbass. J-M LP: Because it's real journalists, not the Trotskyists and anarchists at Charlie Hebdo. If I killed their colleagues in other French media, Charlie Hebdo staff would, with pleasure, 'joke' about their deaths. DA: What are the chances of success for your daughter Marine Le Pen in the next presidential election? J-M LP: Yes, she can win, but I'm afraid she will inherit the ruins of this country. France is economically, and irresistibly, heading for the abyss. Comment: At the very least this shows that there are some French politicians who are clued in to what is really going on behind the scenes. Will the French arrest Le Pen for stating the obvious? It's possible. They've already arrested dozens of people for exercising their 'right to free speech' after the CH attacks. And Le Pen does say a lot of the right things in his interview. However, he's clearly 'on point' with the current propaganda talking points with his blatant Islamophobia. He "saw it coming" because of immigration? If he were really being honest, and not selling his racist anti-immigration position, he'd call it like it is: Islamic terrorism is not a Muslim phenomenon, it is a CIA/Mossad/MI6 phenomenon. Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Wahrani 1 465 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Une crapule reste une crapule , même s'il prononce la chahada ! Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Durakwir 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 A en juger par la degaine des deux tueurs, j'ai personnellement du mal a imaginer qu'ils ne sont que de simples amateurs... Dead men tell no tales :46: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
amarlekabyle 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 (2/2) suite et fin L'interview Daria Aslamova: Monsieur Le Pen, you first made the statement "I am not Charlie". How come? Jean-Marie Le Pen: I am not Charlie Hebdo. This anarchist rag is a direct enemy of our National Front party, and a few years ago its journalists were collecting signatures on a petition demanding our closure. And all these politicians who came to the demonstration - they too are not Charlie but 'charlots'! (so-called French clowns, comedians - DA) They can organize a big spectacle with strong media support and the slogan 'I am Charlie', temporarily mobilizing the nation, but they are not able to protect the country from the influx of immigrants from the south. I would like to be 'Charlie Martella'. (as French naval battleships were named, after the French military leader Charles Martel - DA) Martell, this brilliant French soldier, in 732 stopped the Arab invasion in Poitiers. DA: But now we're in 2015! J-M LP: Yes, and we live in a France with between 15 and 20 million Muslims. All French governments, left or right, allowed immigration, and even encouraged it. Every year another three hundred thousand people come, and they're not looking for work. 6 to 8 million people in France live on social benefits, which these immigrants come for. This is the result of a common Christian and European decadence. Europe has removed borders within the EU. And now, from the southern border, which nobody protects, leak hundreds of thousands of people into France. The whole thing amounts to intra-European betrayal. DA: But France itself is partly to blame for this. People are fleeing from war and chaos. After all, France has turned Libya into ruins! J-M LP: It was real crazy to get involved in a war with Libya. French planes bombed Gaddafi's tanks at a time when he was preparing to take Benghazi - the main stronghold of the Salafis (Wahhabis). Today complete anarchy reigns in Libya. From there, arms have been spreading across North Africa, and French leaders like Sarkozy are directly responsible for it. DA: What do you think about the Ukrainian crisis and the division between Europe and Russia? J-M LP: It was provoked by NATO, this Ukrainian crisis, as it tried to get closer to Russia's borders. The position of our party is this: the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is a family quarrel. After all, Russia was born in Kiev. And neither Europeans nor the Americans need to interfere in this family drama. Russian and Ukrainians themselves will understand each other. But there is no doubt that the United States continues to treat Russia as the Soviet Union, and to try to shake your government with conflicts in Georgia and Ukraine. DA: You are a member of the European Parliament looking into the situation with the downed Malaysian Boeing. What do you think about this crime? J-M LP: The surprising fact is that all investigations are conducted in an atmosphere of great secrecy. I'm no expert, but it is clear to me that this kind of attack requires military professionals of the highest level, and high-precision weapons, which for militias are not simple to acquire and use. And the obvious question is: why was this civilian aircraft flying over a war zone? Who let this happen? DA: This year a transatlantic partnership between the United States and the European Union will be signed. What are the benefits it promises Europe? J-M LP: Yes, it would be a disaster! We've turned into an economic colony of America. The EU is moving in the wrong direction - to the West, and it is necessary to turn to the East, Russia. We need a united Europe - from the Atlantic to the Pacific, but a Europe of sovereign nations. Russia has demographic problems, and it is increasingly difficult for it to keep Siberia. However, Siberia - a geo-strategic location - is absolutely necessary for the survival of the whole of Europe. We need a strong alliance between Europe, with its high technology, and Russia, with its natural resources. If we do not, then our continent, with its demographic depression, in the cultural and economic sense, will simply disappear. Look at Germany: it's a gold-plated coffin full of dead bodies. The Germans are a dying nation. How many children give birth in Europe? Per woman, on average, 1.3 children. And just to keep the previous level of the population requires 2.5. And now look at the world around us. Muslim countries, India - per woman, between 3 and 5 children. I've said nothing about China. If it cancels the rule of 'one family - one child', a population explosion will happen that will shake the entire planet. But Europe must be saved individually, without relying on bureaucrats in Brussels. France should withdraw from the EU to limit immigration and to solve economic problems on its own. We need to get the French to understand that our salvation lies in national sovereignty. DA: But your National Front party is not even invited to the general demonstration against terrorism! J-M LP: Because we are the defenders of the national idea. We had to be at the forefront, as it is the National Front that spoke of the urgent problems of immigration for many years! And on the possibility of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. DA: However, in the Charlie Hebdo affair, there are many unanswered questions. J-M LP: I agree. These Kouachi brothers leaving their ID cards behind reminded me of that passport falling out of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 and miraculously surviving intact. Downtown New York City burned, but the passport was fine. They now tell people that the terrorists are idiots, which is why, they say, they left their documents in the car. The shooting at Charlie Hebdo has the hallmarks of being a secret service operation, but we have no proof. I do not think that the French authorities organized this crime, but they allowed this crime to be committed. This is only a guess. DA: Why did the Charlie Hebdo magazine constantly insult Muslims and Christians, but hardly touched the Jews? J-M LP: Because the Jews know how to defend themselves. Pay attention to the Femen organization. They can run around naked in front of the Pope, naked in the Cathedral of Notre Dame, but they never do that in the synagogue. DA: Europe mourns the dead cartoonist, but does not see the death of Russian journalists in the Donbass. J-M LP: Because it's real journalists, not the Trotskyists and anarchists at Charlie Hebdo. If I killed their colleagues in other French media, Charlie Hebdo staff would, with pleasure, 'joke' about their deaths. DA: What are the chances of success for your daughter Marine Le Pen in the next presidential election? J-M LP: Yes, she can win, but I'm afraid she will inherit the ruins of this country. France is economically, and irresistibly, heading for the abyss. Comment: At the very least this shows that there are some French politicians who are clued in to what is really going on behind the scenes. Will the French arrest Le Pen for stating the obvious? It's possible. They've already arrested dozens of people for exercising their 'right to free speech' after the CH attacks. And Le Pen does say a lot of the right things in his interview. However, he's clearly 'on point' with the current propaganda talking points with his blatant Islamophobia. He "saw it coming" because of immigration? If he were really being honest, and not selling his racist anti-immigration position, he'd call it like it is: Islamic terrorism is not a Muslim phenomenon, it is a CIA/Mossad/MI6 phenomenon. Aucun média français n'a relayé la bave haineuse d'un rénégat qui s'en venir la mort... Toi Herr Doctor traduis-nous cette page...:mdr::mdr::mdr: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
leparisien 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Ses theses se basent sur des théories internet il ne fait que reprendre des thèses déjà édités!!!! Citer Link to post Share on other sites
leparisien 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Voilà pour la traduction!!! Dans une interview publiée jeudi dans le tabloïd russe Komsomolskaïa Pravda, réputé pour son sensationnalisme, Jean-Marie Le Pen adopte sans trop de retenue la thèse de la théorie du complot au sujet des attentats de Charlie Hebdo. Alors que la journaliste Daria Aslamova estime qu’il y a «beaucoup de zones d’ombre» dans la version «officielle» de la tuerie, le président honoraire du Front national embraye : «Je suis d’accord avec vous. Cette histoire de carte d’identité oubliée par les frères Kouachi me rappelle le passeport d’un des terroristes du 11 Septembre miraculeusement retrouvé dans un New York en cendres. On nous dit maintenant que ces terroristes sont juste des idiots. Toute l’opération [des frères Kouachi] porte la signature de services secrets. Bien sûr, nous n’avons pas de preuve. Je ne dis pas que les autorités françaises sont derrière ce crime, mais qu’ils ont pu avoir permis qu’il ait lieu.» Le Pen revendique sa déclaration «Je suis Charlie Martel». Assurant que la France compterait entre «15 et 20 millions de musulmans», il reprend son vieux refrain sur l’immigration «que tous les gouvernements successifs ont autorisé et même encouragé». Il estime que le Front national aurait dû être au premier rang de la marche républicaine, «étant le seul parti à avoir alerté l’opinion sur les dangers de l’immigration et de l’islamisme radical». «Conquérants» Avant d’embrayer sur ses classiques… «Chaque année, 300 000 personnes arrivent et ne cherchent pas de travail. Entre 6 et 8 millions de personnes vivent des prestations sociales en France, ce qui suggère que ce n’est pas une immigration de travailleurs mais des conquérants. C’est le résultat de la décadence chrétienne qui touche toute l’Europe. L’Union européenne a interdit les frontières en son sein, et maintenant, au Sud, personne ne nous protège de l’arrivée des centaines de milliers d’immigrés. Cela ressemble à une trahison intra-européenne.» Quand on lui demande pourquoi Charlie Hebdo ne caricature «que les musulmans et les chrétiens mais presque jamais les juifs», le patriarche frontiste explique que c’est parce que «les juifs savent se défendre». En guise d’exemple, il évoque «les Femen, qui peuvent se dénuder devant le pape mais ne sont jamais entrées dans une synagogue.» Quant aux chances de Marine Le Pen à la prochaine élection présidentielle, Jean-Marie Le Pen estime qu’elles sont réelles mais que sa fille «ne trouvera qu’une France en ruine, dont l’économie bascule irrémédiablement dans l’abîme.» La présidente du Front national donnait ce vendredi une conférence de presse. Interrogée sur les déclarations de son père, elle dit ne pas avoir connaissance de cette interview qui lui paraît bien «étrange»… Dans la soirée, le Front national a publié un communiqué indiquant que Jean-Marie Le Pen ne «valide pas les retraductions en français d’interviews déjà traduites du français en russe». Citer Link to post Share on other sites
tek.afiriste 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Ses theses se basent sur des théories internet il ne fait que reprendre des thèses déjà édités!!!! ce n'est pas parce que les remarques et hypothèses avancées par Le PEN ne sont pas originales, qu'elles perdent de leur crédibilité. Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Guest George Bish Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 (2/2) suite et fin L'interview Daria Aslamova: Monsieur Le Pen, you first made the statement "I am not Charlie". How come? Jean-Marie Le Pen: I am not Charlie Hebdo. This anarchist rag is a direct enemy of our National Front party, and a few years ago its journalists were collecting signatures on a petition demanding our closure. And all these politicians who came to the demonstration - they too are not Charlie but 'charlots'! (so-called French clowns, comedians - DA) They can organize a big spectacle with strong media support and the slogan 'I am Charlie', temporarily mobilizing the nation, but they are not able to protect the country from the influx of immigrants from the south. I would like to be 'Charlie Martella'. (as French naval battleships were named, after the French military leader Charles Martel - DA) Martell, this brilliant French soldier, in 732 stopped the Arab invasion in Poitiers. DA: But now we're in 2015! J-M LP: Yes, and we live in a France with between 15 and 20 million Muslims. All French governments, left or right, allowed immigration, and even encouraged it. Every year another three hundred thousand people come, and they're not looking for work. 6 to 8 million people in France live on social benefits, which these immigrants come for. This is the result of a common Christian and European decadence. Europe has removed borders within the EU. And now, from the southern border, which nobody protects, leak hundreds of thousands of people into France. The whole thing amounts to intra-European betrayal. DA: But France itself is partly to blame for this. People are fleeing from war and chaos. After all, France has turned Libya into ruins! J-M LP: It was real crazy to get involved in a war with Libya. French planes bombed Gaddafi's tanks at a time when he was preparing to take Benghazi - the main stronghold of the Salafis (Wahhabis). Today complete anarchy reigns in Libya. From there, arms have been spreading across North Africa, and French leaders like Sarkozy are directly responsible for it. DA: What do you think about the Ukrainian crisis and the division between Europe and Russia? J-M LP: It was provoked by NATO, this Ukrainian crisis, as it tried to get closer to Russia's borders. The position of our party is this: the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is a family quarrel. After all, Russia was born in Kiev. And neither Europeans nor the Americans need to interfere in this family drama. Russian and Ukrainians themselves will understand each other. But there is no doubt that the United States continues to treat Russia as the Soviet Union, and to try to shake your government with conflicts in Georgia and Ukraine. DA: You are a member of the European Parliament looking into the situation with the downed Malaysian Boeing. What do you think about this crime? J-M LP: The surprising fact is that all investigations are conducted in an atmosphere of great secrecy. I'm no expert, but it is clear to me that this kind of attack requires military professionals of the highest level, and high-precision weapons, which for militias are not simple to acquire and use. And the obvious question is: why was this civilian aircraft flying over a war zone? Who let this happen? DA: This year a transatlantic partnership between the United States and the European Union will be signed. What are the benefits it promises Europe? J-M LP: Yes, it would be a disaster! We've turned into an economic colony of America. The EU is moving in the wrong direction - to the West, and it is necessary to turn to the East, Russia. We need a united Europe - from the Atlantic to the Pacific, but a Europe of sovereign nations. Russia has demographic problems, and it is increasingly difficult for it to keep Siberia. However, Siberia - a geo-strategic location - is absolutely necessary for the survival of the whole of Europe. We need a strong alliance between Europe, with its high technology, and Russia, with its natural resources. If we do not, then our continent, with its demographic depression, in the cultural and economic sense, will simply disappear. Look at Germany: it's a gold-plated coffin full of dead bodies. The Germans are a dying nation. How many children give birth in Europe? Per woman, on average, 1.3 children. And just to keep the previous level of the population requires 2.5. And now look at the world around us. Muslim countries, India - per woman, between 3 and 5 children. I've said nothing about China. If it cancels the rule of 'one family - one child', a population explosion will happen that will shake the entire planet. But Europe must be saved individually, without relying on bureaucrats in Brussels. France should withdraw from the EU to limit immigration and to solve economic problems on its own. We need to get the French to understand that our salvation lies in national sovereignty. DA: But your National Front party is not even invited to the general demonstration against terrorism! J-M LP: Because we are the defenders of the national idea. We had to be at the forefront, as it is the National Front that spoke of the urgent problems of immigration for many years! And on the possibility of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. DA: However, in the Charlie Hebdo affair, there are many unanswered questions. J-M LP: I agree. These Kouachi brothers leaving their ID cards behind reminded me of that passport falling out of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 and miraculously surviving intact. Downtown New York City burned, but the passport was fine. They now tell people that the terrorists are idiots, which is why, they say, they left their documents in the car. The shooting at Charlie Hebdo has the hallmarks of being a secret service operation, but we have no proof. I do not think that the French authorities organized this crime, but they allowed this crime to be committed. This is only a guess. DA: Why did the Charlie Hebdo magazine constantly insult Muslims and Christians, but hardly touched the Jews? J-M LP: Because the Jews know how to defend themselves. Pay attention to the Femen organization. They can run around naked in front of the Pope, naked in the Cathedral of Notre Dame, but they never do that in the synagogue. DA: Europe mourns the dead cartoonist, but does not see the death of Russian journalists in the Donbass. J-M LP: Because it's real journalists, not the Trotskyists and anarchists at Charlie Hebdo. If I killed their colleagues in other French media, Charlie Hebdo staff would, with pleasure, 'joke' about their deaths. DA: What are the chances of success for your daughter Marine Le Pen in the next presidential election? J-M LP: Yes, she can win, but I'm afraid she will inherit the ruins of this country. France is economically, and irresistibly, heading for the abyss. Comment: At the very least this shows that there are some French politicians who are clued in to what is really going on behind the scenes. Will the French arrest Le Pen for stating the obvious? It's possible. They've already arrested dozens of people for exercising their 'right to free speech' after the CH attacks. And Le Pen does say a lot of the right things in his interview. However, he's clearly 'on point' with the current propaganda talking points with his blatant Islamophobia. He "saw it coming" because of immigration? If he were really being honest, and not selling his racist anti-immigration position, he'd call it like it is: Islamic terrorism is not a Muslim phenomenon, it is a CIA/Mossad/MI6 phenomenon. Citer Link to post Share on other sites
PAX 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Pourquoi, régulièrement, plusieurs fois par an, ils arrêtent des cellules prêtes à passer à l'action, comme récemment en Belgique, Allemagne... Pourquoi ne les laissent ils pas commettre leurs attentats? Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Soizik Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Pourquoi, régulièrement, plusieurs fois par an, ils arrêtent des cellules prêtes à passer à l'action, comme récemment en Belgique, Allemagne... Pourquoi ne les laissent ils pas commettre leurs attentats? tu es admirable , tu gardes espoir...bravo Citer Link to post Share on other sites
PAX 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 C'est réellement une question que je me pose...au lieu d'impliquer les services secrets..des milliers de personnes...barrer les rue de Paris...ça ferait de belles économies... En plus ça fera plus naturel..que ces mises en scènes grotesques..que Ladoz decrypte dans l'heure qui suit... Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Soizik Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 C'est réellement une question que je me pose...au lieu d'impliquer les services secrets..des milliers de personnes...barrer les rue de Paris...ça ferait de belles économies... En plus ça fera plus naturel..que ces mises en scènes grotesques..que Ladoz decrypte dans l'heure qui suit... oui, il est trop fort...:D Citer Link to post Share on other sites
snoop 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 il va mourir avec un bilan politique catastrophique réduit à celui de clown protestataire...je comprend pourquoi sa fille l'a laissé tombé Citer Link to post Share on other sites
falestine 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 il va mourir avec un bilan politique catastrophique réduit à celui de clown protestataire...je comprend pourquoi sa fille l'a laissé tombé je suis ladoz parce qu'il est objectif sensé et n'adhere pas a la regle des trois i Citer Link to post Share on other sites
snoop 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 je suis ladoz parce qu'il est objectif sensé et n'adhere pas a la regle des trois i je ne l'aime pas, comme çà c'est dit, et ce n'est ni BFM TV ni Bouteflika qui m'a dit de ne pas l'aimer, je ne l'aime pas parce qu'il veut atteindre le sommet en écrasant les maghrébins et les musulmans Citer Link to post Share on other sites
falestine 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 je ne l'aime pas, comme çà c'est dit, et ce n'est ni BFM TV ni Bouteflika qui m'a dit de ne pas l'aimer, je ne l'aime pas parce qu'il veut atteindre le sommet en écrasant les maghrébins et les musulmans pourtant lui il t'aime:confused: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
snoop 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 pourtant lui il t'aime:confused: Saviez-vous que Le Pen avait du sang maghrébin ?...... ...sur son pare-chocs :mdr::mdr: j'adore cette blague :mdr: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
falestine 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 Saviez-vous que Le Pen avait du sang maghrébin ?...... ...sur son pare-chocs :mdr::mdr: j'adore cette blague :mdr: oui il existe le ben algerien la lettre p n'exixte pas dans notre langue Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Khalis 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Partager Posted January 17, 2015 C'est réellement une question que je me pose...au lieu d'impliquer les services secrets..des milliers de personnes...barrer les rue de Paris...ça ferait de belles économies... En plus ça fera plus naturel..que ces mises en scènes grotesques..que Ladoz decrypte dans l'heure qui suit... on laisse faire d'un coté et on appréhende de l'autre ....on laisse faire on appréhende...........on laisse faire, on appréhende.......c'est plus crédible :fear(1): je n’adhère pas au tout-complotisme mais je m'autorise une ouverture d'esprit à l'idée d'une complicité passive ! un scénario (classique) dans se sens : on anticipe l'intention de l’élément terroriste en fonction de la cible de celui-ci on laisse faire et on ouvre la voie selon la symbolique idéologique de la cible et son impacte idéologique sur l'opinion publique et pour les pertes humaines éventuelles ? dommages collatéraux....sacrifiés pour un intérêt suprême Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Ladoz 11 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Partager Posted January 18, 2015 Aucun média français n'a relayé la bave haineuse d'un rénégat qui s'en venir la mort... Toi Herr Doctor traduis-nous cette page...:mdr::mdr::mdr: ..................... n'a pas à "payer" pour ton analphabétisme !!! :mdr::mdr: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Ladoz 11 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Partager Posted January 18, 2015 Pourquoi, régulièrement, plusieurs fois par an, ils arrêtent des cellules prêtes à passer à l'action, comme récemment en Belgique, Allemagne... Pourquoi ne les laissent ils pas commettre leurs attentats? :mdr::mdr::mdr::mdr: Qui peut nous prouver que ces "cellules sont prêtes à passer à l'action" ? Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Ladoz 11 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Partager Posted January 18, 2015 je suis ladoz parce qu'il est objectif sensé et n'adhere pas a la regle des trois i :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy: Citer Link to post Share on other sites
tlemçani 10 Posted January 18, 2015 Partager Posted January 18, 2015 Pourquoi pas, le pen a le mérite de dire ce qu'il pense franchement l'éventualité d'une scene monté est trés probable Qui a tué les 12? les kouachi ou les services secrets? les gillets par balle des journalistes, les tenues militaires des tueurs, le fait d'oublier leurs chaussures, leurs pieces d'identité, ne pas raccrocher le téléphone Une ruelle vidée pour monter le scenario, le kalachnikov qui n'explose pas la victime mais le tir est dans le vide Des présidents de pays qui arrivent à liberer leurs agenda pour venir manifester avec mille vetus en costumes et chapeaux noirs!! valls qui dit nous sommes tous juifs et dieudo qui lui répond, nous sommes blacks et beurs... Citer Link to post Share on other sites
Ethery 10 Posted January 19, 2015 Partager Posted January 19, 2015 Pourquoi, régulièrement, plusieurs fois par an, ils arrêtent des cellules prêtes à passer à l'action, comme récemment en Belgique, Allemagne... Pourquoi ne les laissent ils pas commettre leurs attentats? Hello, Aucun service ne veut paraitre aux yeux des autorites et du peuple comme une passoire,il a besoin de filtrer sellectivement les evenements et meme parfois les coordonner en fonction des besoins de propagandes des parties pour lesquelles il a puls de sympathies, pour influencer le cours des elections du partie avec lequel il a des affinites, d'aider les politiciens a remonter la pentes des sondages, enfin de cataliser la vie politique, sociale et parquensequent servire de conduit unique a la maniere dont le peuple reagit et pense. Un million dans la rue qui gueule Je suis Charlie te donne une idee. Donc si un jour tu veux definir la democracie, pense y deux fois avant de t'avanturer sur un terrain mine'. Alors la, si tu veux definir "free speech" tu es confronte a une utopie. La nouvelle definition des services secrets d'un pays est sipmlement "service modulateures d'actions terroristes et filtre subversive " Ethery Citer Link to post Share on other sites
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